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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco Values</title>
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		<title>By: douglas.nerad &#187; San Francisco is not Happy Land</title>
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		<dc:creator>douglas.nerad &#187; San Francisco is not Happy Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ranted about this before and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll rant about it in the future. San Francisco just isn&#8217;t what most [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mookee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure what "San Francisco values" specifically are.  Bill O'Reilly is a moron for saying he wants to boycott San Francisco, but Nancy Pelosi is equally stupid for calling any "value" specific to San Francisco.

"Family Values?"  What does that mean?  Does that mean a mom and dad, two loving parents, regardless?  A home to live in that has support?  I don't know, it's way too subjective.

The only way I could buy into anyone saying San Francisco's "values" are different than anywhere else would be if one identifies being open minded to the point of ignoring decency (in some cases) as a value.  But the flip side of that coin is the fact that it's close minded on things it doesn't like ...  case in point.  

Gay rights are huge here.  Which I'll not argue either way but I would think most normal people would consider a good thing.  I don't mean the in-your-face-accept-me-because-I'm-gay-and-be-happy-about-it crowd, but rather those that accept people for who they are and leave it at that.  This is a great thing, but if you don't accept them, you're obviously stupid and evil (not by everyone's account) and not worth talking to because you're just plain wrong.  If we're going to accept people for who and what they are regardless of what it is (I will argue that there are exceptions to that ... everything is NOT tolerable), then let's accept everyone ... again, within reason.  I'm not going to consider a child rapist "normal" under any circumstances, nor will I ever believe it's acceptable to even have the discussion.

Anyway, I've been rushed here at the end, must get back to work.  My point is that value's are values.  They may change mildy from place to place, but in every free society (and yes, we still live in one) the values are the same ... to claim that ours are better than theirs, or they (as a collective whole) are out of control is just stupid.

How about our politicians saying intelligent things (wouldn't that be a hoot?), and how about their critics  saying things that are actually feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;San Francisco values&#8221; specifically are.  Bill O&#8217;Reilly is a moron for saying he wants to boycott San Francisco, but Nancy Pelosi is equally stupid for calling any &#8220;value&#8221; specific to San Francisco.</p>
<p>&#8220;Family Values?&#8221;  What does that mean?  Does that mean a mom and dad, two loving parents, regardless?  A home to live in that has support?  I don&#8217;t know, it&#8217;s way too subjective.</p>
<p>The only way I could buy into anyone saying San Francisco&#8217;s &#8220;values&#8221; are different than anywhere else would be if one identifies being open minded to the point of ignoring decency (in some cases) as a value.  But the flip side of that coin is the fact that it&#8217;s close minded on things it doesn&#8217;t like &#8230;  case in point.  </p>
<p>Gay rights are huge here.  Which I&#8217;ll not argue either way but I would think most normal people would consider a good thing.  I don&#8217;t mean the in-your-face-accept-me-because-I&#8217;m-gay-and-be-happy-about-it crowd, but rather those that accept people for who they are and leave it at that.  This is a great thing, but if you don&#8217;t accept them, you&#8217;re obviously stupid and evil (not by everyone&#8217;s account) and not worth talking to because you&#8217;re just plain wrong.  If we&#8217;re going to accept people for who and what they are regardless of what it is (I will argue that there are exceptions to that &#8230; everything is NOT tolerable), then let&#8217;s accept everyone &#8230; again, within reason.  I&#8217;m not going to consider a child rapist &#8220;normal&#8221; under any circumstances, nor will I ever believe it&#8217;s acceptable to even have the discussion.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve been rushed here at the end, must get back to work.  My point is that value&#8217;s are values.  They may change mildy from place to place, but in every free society (and yes, we still live in one) the values are the same &#8230; to claim that ours are better than theirs, or they (as a collective whole) are out of control is just stupid.</p>
<p>How about our politicians saying intelligent things (wouldn&#8217;t that be a hoot?), and how about their critics  saying things that are actually feasible.</p>
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